Saturday, 29 August 2009

More dead on the way home.

What can be gleaned from the tables below?

Currently Afghanistan is much smaller in scale than Vietnam.

However the greater the number of troops involved the higher the casualty number. This is obvious from the second source. What the non-hostile deaths were I don’t know. Training, fragging, suicide?

We don’t get any WIA and MIA numbers for Afghanistan so being crude and using the Vietnam data WIA is 5/6 times the number of KIA. So I’ll do that for 06/09 in the first table.

What’s the body count going to be when all coalition forces are in the field? Who knows? Even using predator drones and remote assassination it’s going up.

Has there ever been a time when we the British electorate have had our representatives tell us to go fuck ourselves!!!!?????

Afghanistan

Coalition Military Fatalities by Year*
Year US Other Total Est.WIA(my figures)
2009 165 121 286 1430/1716
2008 155 139 294 1470/1764
2007 117 115 232 1160/1392
2006 98 93 191 955/1146
2005 99 32 131
2004 52 7 59
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 795 536 1331

*Source: http://low-intensity-conflict-review.blogspot.com/2009/08/us-and-nato-casualties-afghanistan.html

Vietnam
Casualties By Year*
1961-1965
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 1,864 7,337 18 unknown

ARVN unknown unknown unknown unknown

NVA/VC unknown unknown unknown unknown

1966
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 5,008 1 29,992 61 unknown

ARVN 11,953 71,584 unknown unknown

NVA/VC 71,473 unknown unknown 3,247

Note 1: there were an additional 1,045 non-hostile deaths for a total of 6,053
1967
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 9,378 1 56,013 113 unknown

ARVN 12,716 76,299 529 unknown

NVA/VC 133,484 unknown unknown 6,065

Note 1: there were an additional 1,680 non-hostile deaths for a total of 11,058
1968
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 14,594 1 87,388 176 unknown

ARVN 28,800 172,512 587 unknown

NVA/VC 208,254 unknown unknown 9,462

Note 1: there were an additional 1,919 non-hostile deaths for a total of 16,511
1969
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 9,414 1 55,390 112 unknown

ARVN 22,000 131,780 683 unknown

NVA/VC 132,051 unknown unknown 5,905

Note 1: there were an additional 2,113 non-hostile deaths for a total of 11,527
1970
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 4,221 1 24,835 101 unknown

ARVN 23,000 137,770 727 unknown

NVA/VC 86,591 unknown unknown 3,934

Note 1: there were an additional 1,844 non-hostile deaths for a total of 6,065
1971
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 1,380 1 18,109 16 unknown

ARVN 19,901 123,545 727 unknown

NVA/VC 19,320 unknown unknown 2,304

Note 1: there were an additional 968 non-hostile deaths for a total of 2,348
1972
Force KIA WIA MIA CIA
US Forces 300 1 3,936 11 unknown

ARVN 25,787 139,731 727 unknown

NVA/VC 4,261 unknown unknown 1,349

Legend: KIA = Killed In Action WIA = Wounded In Action MIA = Missing In Action CIA = Captured In Action
Note 1: there were an additional 261 non-hostile deaths for a total of 561
*Source: http://www.rjsmith.com/kia_tbl.html